Well, I remember a few years back, maybe four, or it might have been five, wait, was it 2001? Anyway, it was a Thursday night and we were round at Jim's house, hold on, no, it can't have been Thursday Jim used to do Karate on a Thursday. So we were at Jim's house and it was Wednesday night and we were really bored, hold up, actually that might have been Katie's place, when she lived on Farleigh Road, but Jim was there, I remember because he was playing terrible indie tracks to try to wind up Karen. Or maybe that was Lisa. So, anyway, there were a few of us and we were really bored and we, no, hang on, it can't have been Lisa, she didn't move to Brum til 2003. Unless she was there visiting Jim. She might have been. Were they together at that point? Or was she still with that guy, you know, the one with the long blonde hair and the seriously cute bum. I think he was called John something? And I think we had something to eat. And it was chips. Yummm.